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Should We Believe Phyllis Hall?

Updated: Sep 15

Jefferson Morley, in a recent Substack post, claimed that Nurse Phyllis Hall corroborates Paul Landis's story about placing a bullet on JFK's stretcher. Morley quotes from a Daily Mail article:

'On the cart, halfway between the earlobe and the shoulder, there was a bullet laying almost perpendicular there, but I have not seen a picture of that bullet ever,' she told The Telegraph almost 10 years ago.
Separately, she told the Sunday Mirror: 'I could see a bullet lodged between his ear and his shoulder. It was pointed at its tip and showed no signs of damage. I remember looking at it – there was no blunting of the bullet or scarring around the shell from where it had been fired.
'I'd had a great deal of experience working with gunshot wounds but I had never seen anything like this before.
'It was about one-and-a-half inches long – nothing like the bullets that were later produced.
'It was taken away but never have I seen it presented in evidence or heard what happened to it. It remains a mystery.'

But is Hall's story credible?

Researcher Pat Speer doesn't think so:

Hall is perhaps the least credible "witness" to emerge in decades. By her own admission, she was not an ER nurse and had no business in the ER. She just sauntered in, saw stuff, and sauntered out, only to emerge right before the 50th and revel in all the attention. It's bs.

Speer listed a variety of newspapers where she was quoted back in 2013.

The Telegraph has a story about four witnesses, including Hall.

There, Phyllis Hall, a nurse in the outpatient clinic who happened to be talking with a friend who worked on the triage desk in the emergency ward, was about to be swept up in the whirlwind of history. “The supervisor said there had been a call to say there was an accident in the president’s motorcade,” she said. “The words were hardly out of her mouth when the doors burst open.

“Among the first in was Lyndon Johnson, the vice president, who was very pale and sweating heavily. Then I heard the groans of someone calling out in grave pain. It was Governor John Connally, who was seriously injured in the attack.

“Then they carried in a second stretcher. I could just see a man from his waist down as there was a lady lying across his head and shoulders.

“A doctor told me: 'We need you here.’ We were whisked into the Trauma One room, where it was immediately clear that this was President Kennedy.

“I started to feel for his vital signs. I couldn’t find any, there was no pulse. His eyelids were half-closed, his pupils were fixed and dilated, and his skin was blueish-grey, indicating that no oxygen was circulating.”

As the doctors worked frantically to resuscitate their patient, Mrs Kennedy stood next to her husband, her right hand on his left foot.

“We were desperately searching for any sign of life, but there was nothing,” said Hall. “The treatment the president received that day was outstanding but futile. I believe he was dead when he arrived at the hospital.”

So, Hall was a nurse in the outpatient clinic who was called into Trauma Room 1 and felt for JFK's vital signs. Yet, there is no mention of Hall anywhere at

The Daily Mail's story is a little more vivid:

Phyllis Hall, who was 28 at the time, says she was dragged into the operating room by a secret service agent as medics scrambled to help the president, who was fatally shot in Dallas, Texas on 22 November 1963.

While cradling his head, which had been torn apart by gunshots fired from the famous 'grassy knoll', Mrs Hall says she spotted an unusual bullet, which was promptly removed and never seen again.

She described the bullet in an interview with the Sunday Mirror, which she said looked completely undamaged, and bore no resemblance whatsoever to bullets later shown as evidence in investigations into the President's murder.

She said: 'I could see a bullet lodged between his ear and his shoulder. It was pointed at its tip and showed no signs of damage. There was no blunting of the bullet or scarring around the shell from where it had been fired.

Here she was dragged into the operating room by a secret service agent. And then there is this:

As her shift didn't finish until the evening, Mrs Hall continued working for hours after the President was declared dead, and didn't even tell her husband what she had witnessed.
However, in recent interviews she revealed that she is 'a big believer in the conspiracy theories' surrounding the Mr Kennedy's death.

She didn't even tell her husband? And she's a big believer in conspiracy theories!

Then there was this story in the Los Angeles Times:

Phyllis Hall talked to the Sixth Floor Museum on Decembef 16, 2010 for their oral history project.

And guess what? Not one word about finding a bullet.

She also would not identify the nurse she worked with at the triage desk, and she was unable to recall the names of any other nurses in Trauma Room 1.

Jefferson Morley, in his zeal to accept Paul Landis's story, accepts a more dubious story.


In this 2013 interview, Hall says nothing about a bullet:

Update 2

Here is another interview with the Sixth Floor in which Hall does not mention a bullet.

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