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1991 Tosh Plumlee, Gerry Hemming Interview, Part Two

  • Writer: Fred Litwin
    Fred Litwin
  • 11 minutes ago
  • 3 min read

Here is the second half of the Tosh Plumlee interview. There is also a short segment of an interview with Gerry Hemming at 49:29.


Hemming also claims that he met Oswald in 1959, and that Oswald wanted to be part of the Cuban revolution. No need to take Hemming with any seriousness -- he long has a reputation of making stuff up.


Here is a summary of part two:


0:15 Start

0:23 Dealey Plaza, trying to shut them down

1:24 Sergio on the radio

2:25 Play by play of what happened

3:20 Shot from the Records Building

4;07 When went through my mind? Numbness, shock, and survival

4:45 We [the abort team] failed

5:30 Afterwards a car took them to a safe house -- Tosh and Sergio.

7:40 Then they went to Redbird

8:00 They were airborne at 2:30 PM

8:30 Supposed to pick up Oswald, perhaps

10:15 Other people going to Houston

12:00 Debriefing in New Orleans, 3-4 hrs. with people presented as FBI

14:45 Chuck Middleton is an FBI name he remembers

15:50 Mood had changed

16:50 Plumlee was detained and taken to Colorado, put in jail for 3 months

17:40 Sentenced to reformatory; they got me out of the way

18:00 No idea of what happened to Rojas or Sergio, who were on the flights

18:50 By December 1st, he was in a Denver jail

20:00 He was on ice until Warren Commission finished its work

22:00 Tried to make contact with the HSCA; talked to Bernard Fensterwald

22:28 Why go public now? Because of the contra resupply nework

22:45 Testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

24:40 Plumlee is mentioned in The Fish is Red by Hinckle & Turner

25:15 Why was Roselli part of abort team? Don't know. Knew him as Colonel Roselli

26:23 Plumlee lived with David Ferrie for six months

27:40 Ferrie was with military intelligence

28:00 Oswald knew Plumlee as William Pearson

28:50 Plumlee had 19 different aliases

29:00 Kencom; Kennedy's committee for intelligence

32:30 You won't find direct references to kencom

33:45 Plumlee says he felt good about JFK as President

35:00 Issues in intelligence from Eisenhower loyalists

35:20 Threat against JFK from the mob

37:00 Abort squad was ordered from the White House

37:00 David Scott Farrell

39:00 Rojas

41:00 Sergio

44:30 Flight plan to Dallas

45:11 Tape Stops

45:23 Tape Resumes

45;23 Two flight plans; one dated April 1963 other flight plan not real

48:20 There was no flight plan for abort flight

49:16 Interview stops

49:29 Gerry Hemming

51:50 Met Oswald in 1959 in L.A.

58:00 Oswald wanted to join the Cuban revolution

1:01:30 Oswald wanted to get on a plane to Havana


I'm quite amazed that he close to his goal. His publisher is Trine Day -- who has also published books by Judyth.



Previous Relevant Blog Posts on Tosh Plumlee


Part One of two parts.


Some of Plumlee's interesting activities in 1959.


A bizarre story in which Plumlee writes to the FBI that he has provided bad information to an article about him in a Denver magazine.


Plumlee steals a plane and writes some bad checks.


Did Plumlee fly an abort team to Dallas or the actual assassins?


Plumlee writes to Palamara that Dinkin's messages might have been the intelligence to send the abort team to Dallas.


PBS Frontline investigated Plumlee's allegations about Nags Head, North Carolina and could not corroborate any part of his story








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